Based on S-C inspiration - here comes my beast...

Not your average Savage Hop ups. These are highly modified, with some home-made parts.

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Based on S-C inspiration - here comes my beast...

Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:20 am

So, I have been reading a lot on this forum and have learned a lot... One of the things I really got hooked on were the BIG Savage builds and thus, I am making my own. Because I want to show my appreciation for the help that I got here on the forum, I would like to share my build with you guys.

I am doing a full new parts build without a base Savy to start with. Here's a quick overview of the parts that I am working with:

- ALZA-RACING
* All the parts for the 5T FLUX (thank you Dejan for the GREAT parts)
- Integy:
* Alu Shock towers
* Aluminum Heavy Duty Rear Hub Carrier HPI Savage
- HPI:
* Steering Bellcrank & Servo Saver Turnbucles
* Aluminum C-Hubs Castor Blocks (Purple)
* SF-50 SERVO High Torque Metal Gear
* SF-32TT Digital High Torque Servo
* Wide HD Axle Ends Output Drive Shafts
* Front & Rear BULLETPROOF DIFFERENTIAL
- RPM:
* Upper & Lower A-Arms
- Castle Creations:
* Bec Pro 20Amp (50 Volt Max Input)
* CapPack Capacitor Pack
* Xl2, 34V Esc W/Switching Bec
* Neu 1717 1580kv

I probably forgot all sorts of parts that I have ordered but this will give you guys a general idea of what the build will be made to look. I made one mistake though, I ordered the tranny for the nitro Savage, and ended up getting the reverse module with it so I can actually back this beast up if needed. Does anyone have experience with this module? I kinda like the double brake disk on the tranny and want to get that working. No idea yet how to do that in terms of connecting wires yet but I am sure I'll figure it out. If anyone has any suggestions, I am thankful for all advice.

Pictures will follow later this week. Thanks for reading and let me know if you want to see this build come together... :)
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Post by nitronly » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:02 am

The hpi aluminum hubs are pricy. The gh or gpm ones are cheaper and just as good.

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Post by LLkoolskillet » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:45 am

If you plan on using the nitro tranny you might want to keep plenty of spare gears on hand. The reverse module for nitro is garbage, sorry but it is. You can actually build the flux tranny cheaper in most cases than buying one. Make sure you do get the HD 18/23 gears.  

I look forward to seeing this build come together
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Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:53 pm

[quote="LLkoolskillet";p="856056"]If you plan on using the nitro tranny you might want to keep plenty of spare gears on hand. The reverse module for nitro is garbage, sorry but it is. You can actually build the flux tranny cheaper in most cases than buying one. Make sure you do get the HD 18/23 gears.
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Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:54 pm

[quote="nitronly";p="856053"]The hpi aluminum hubs are pricy. The gh or gpm ones are cheaper and just as good.[/quote]

Hey nitroly,

Did not research this particular part too well but got a great deal on them on Ebay... Paid something like 18 bucks for them. So not too bad. Thanks for the feedback though :)
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Post by LLkoolskillet » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:42 pm

You can use the flux tranny and still use the nitro brakes. The gear box is identical to the nitro version. Just need a set of red fiber disk brakes, brake hub, and cam set up. Not to forget a servo lol I would put all the HD parts in the Flux tranny

Killer deal of a brake setup

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SAVAGE-B ... 19d740340a

WOW

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HPI-Savage-X-4- ... 5650c57e2f

Also good deal

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SAVAGE-C ... 1e7555295f

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=sa ... e&_sacat=0
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Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:55 pm

[quote="LLkoolskillet";p="856069"]You can use the flux tranny and still use the nitro brakes. The gear box is identical to the nitro version. Just need a set of red fiber disk brakes, brake hub, and cam set up. Not to forget a servo lol I would put all the HD parts in the Flux tranny

Killer deal of a brake setup

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SAVAGE-B ... 19d740340a

WOW

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HPI-Savage-X-4- ... 5650c57e2f

Also good deal

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SAVAGE-C ... 1e7555295f

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=sa ... e&_sacat=0[/quote]


Cool! Thanks a lot LLskillet. I got the http://www.ebay.com/itm/130817534303 as I already have the whole tranny brake setup. I was thinking of putting the SF-50 SERVO High Torque Metal Gear on the brakes... Should be strong enough - might even be overkill.

Thanks again
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Post by LLkoolskillet » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:56 pm

sounds good, now get us some pics....please :D
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Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:24 pm

Okay - as requested... here are some startup pictures of what the build will look like in the end.

edt: hmmm working on figuring out how to post pictures....
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Post by Djeap » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:50 pm

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Front bulkhead with RPM A-arms

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Rear bulkhead with RPM A-arms

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SUCCESS!! Hope you like the pics :-)
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Post by LLkoolskillet » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:20 pm

Very nice dude and than you

Its going to be a monster when done
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Post by Ascender » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:21 pm

I might suggest that, instead of using the Savage Flux trans, you get teh parts for the Super 5SC Flux trans and center diff. I have it in my FluXL and it's like running a different truck; much more controllable, more stable, and the tail-wag oversteer is much more progressive. The difference should be even more pronounced on a longer truck.
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Post by Djeap » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:18 am

[quote="Ascender";p="856083"]I might suggest that, instead of using the Savage Flux trans, you get teh parts for the Super 5SC Flux trans and center diff. I have it in my FluXL and it's like running a different truck; much more controllable, more stable, and the tail-wag oversteer is much more progressive. The difference should be even more pronounced on a longer truck.[/quote]

Hey Ascender,

Tried looking up the transmission you mention but can't seem to match the parts together. Could you give a little help with that?

Thanks... :)
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Post by FluxNZ » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:04 am

Try this thread which Ascender started ;)
modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=96618

I think this would be your strongest setup that is stock HPI. Only other option is to go custom.
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Post by Ascender » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:11 pm

Thanks FluxNZ. I should have linked, but I was on my phone.

A direct-drive center diff WOULD be better, I think, but it would also require a lot of fabrication. This is a straight drop-in mod, not hard at all, and it makes a huge difference. Mine has the GPM SSAV1200 hardened steel differential gear set in all three diffs, too. With that, my drivetrain is now 100% hardened steel, except for the cups themselves and the slipper plate.
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Post by Djeap » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:51 pm

[quote="Ascender";p="856145"]Thanks FluxNZ. I should have linked, but I was on my phone.

A direct-drive center diff WOULD be better, I think, but it would also require a lot of fabrication. This is a straight drop-in mod, not hard at all, and it makes a huge difference. Mine has the GPM SSAV1200 hardened steel differential gear set in all three diffs, too. With that, my drivetrain is now 100% hardened steel, except for the cups themselves and the slipper plate.[/quote]

Wow guys thanks for this piece of advice. Definitely worth looking into. Just checked the different parts and they seem to be out of stock in most places. I guess I'll start with the build as is and if it breaks - I'll upgrade this part too :)

Thanks again to Ascender and FluxNZ
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Post by FluxNZ » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:26 pm

Yup fix it as it breaks that's what I've been doing lately :D
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Post by johny723 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:38 pm

If you decide to go the direct center diff route, get some ofna spider center diff. It has a nice big 52t or 54t spur gear that will give you enough gearing options for such a big truck and also has 8 spider gears instead of 6 in ordinary diffs, which means it will be stronger and thick diff oil will stop unloading power to the front more effectively than in a 6-gear diff. more gears in a diff=more contact area for the oil to "lock" it.

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Post by SV250 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:02 pm

Impressive.
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Post by Djeap » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:29 pm

Wow - okay, I am finally getting back to doing some work on this truck. With New Years at 5 different locations in the world and some holiday-ing in warmer regions of the planet, there was no progress on the build for the past weeks. But, last night I finally got to doing some serious construction work and the rig is basically built. I will post pictures later today.

I still have to do the whole electronics set-up and am waiting on some wire, new connectors (EC5) and I need to figure out the resistor situation that I picked up from s2022 (http://www.savage-central.com/modules.p ... &start=160). It seems the best way to reduce the "spark" when hooking up the lipo's.

So, still lots to do but there is new progress...

Will keep you all posted. Thanks again for all the good commentary and help!!!!
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